Comments on: Showing Off My <body> and Loving It http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AlexeyGfi http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-71491 AlexeyGfi Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:26:37 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-71491 Interesting idea: HTML without CSS, but it is not realy normal, because every value in html-tag - it is analogue of CSS (mayby reverse: every CSS-value - analogue of html-tag-parametter ). It is like present world without mathematic ;-) Interesting idea: HTML without CSS, but it is not realy normal, because every value in html-tag – it is analogue of CSS (mayby reverse: every CSS-value – analogue of html-tag-parametter ). It is like present world without mathematic ;-)

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By: graaam http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-71431 graaam Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:13 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-71431 Why not Open Source Day or something different Why not Open Source Day or something different

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By: Jordan Clark http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70928 Jordan Clark Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:41:53 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70928 I think that it is irrelevant whether <abbr title="The Web Standards Project">WaSP</abbr> goes naked or not; as trovster said in <a href="http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70479" rel="nofollow">comment #1</a>, it will only be a case of preaching to the converted anyway. I went naked on <a href="http://jdclark.org/" title="The personal website of Jordan Clark" rel="nofollow">my personal website</a> for the day, and I think I converted my "audience" (<abbr title="that is">i.e.</abbr>: my mother's behind me all the way!) What I'm trying to say is: to really get the point across to the masses, you need the likes of <a href="http://www.google.com/ncr" rel="nofollow">Google</a>, <a href="http://www.msn.com/" rel="nofollow">MSN</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> to get on board... then again, some things are best left covered up! I think that it is irrelevant whether WaSP goes naked or not; as trovster said in comment #1, it will only be a case of preaching to the converted anyway.
I went naked on my personal website for the day, and I think I converted my “audience” (i.e.: my mother’s behind me all the way!)
What I’m trying to say is: to really get the point across to the masses, you need the likes of Google, MSN and YouTube to get on board… then again, some things are best left covered up!

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By: Jonathan http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70723 Jonathan Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:32:08 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70723 What I don't understand is that the WASP site looks awesome without styles. It's an inspiration to people who wonder how they could possibly present a style-free version of their own site. What I don’t understand is that the WASP site looks awesome without styles. It’s an inspiration to people who wonder how they could possibly present a style-free version of their own site.

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By: prisca http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70620 prisca Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:32:49 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70620 Very disappointed to find you didn't 'strip' for naked day.... very weak.... Yes, I agree - it would have a huge effect on all those visiting the site - I thought that was the point??? I don't think anyone would have objected to a solution similar to the one on the 'friends of ed' site - a styled box with the site's menu contained within the unstyled page. This allowed anyone to access the links as they are used to - but made a very string point due to the page being otherwise unstyled... This approach could have worked for the WaSP site as well - not taking part at all does feel like a huge let down, in my opinion..... Very disappointed to find you didn’t ‘strip’ for naked day…. very weak….

Yes, I agree – it would have a huge effect on all those visiting the site – I thought that was the point???

I don’t think anyone would have objected to a solution similar to the one on the ‘friends of ed’ site – a styled box with the site’s menu contained within the unstyled page. This allowed anyone to access the links as they are used to – but made a very string point due to the page being otherwise unstyled…

This approach could have worked for the WaSP site as well – not taking part at all does feel like a huge let down, in my opinion…..

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By: David http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70585 David Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:08:10 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70585 Okay, so you don't practice what you preach. I think I've seen as much of this website as I need to. Okay, so you don’t practice what you preach. I think I’ve seen as much of this website as I need to.

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By: Ben Buchanan http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70549 Ben Buchanan Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:36:57 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70549 Personally I think the whole point of CSS Naked Day is that yes, you DO need to explain it to people. If people understood it, there wouldn't be much need for it. Frankly I think it's a bit weak for WaSP to opt out <strong>because it would have to educate people about web standards</strong>. Sorry to be blunt, but isn't that what you're here for? Showing the site without CSS <strong>is</strong> witnessing POSH and progressive enhancement in action. Yes, WaSP would need to run the "where is the design?" block at the top of the page - like any number of participating sites. But with that explanation in place, surely all would be well? While I really do see the point that some sites don't have enough to gain from CSS Naked Day, I don't think WaSP is one of those sites. Personally I think the whole point of CSS Naked Day is that yes, you DO need to explain it to people. If people understood it, there wouldn’t be much need for it.

Frankly I think it’s a bit weak for WaSP to opt out because it would have to educate people about web standards. Sorry to be blunt, but isn’t that what you’re here for? Showing the site without CSS is witnessing POSH and progressive enhancement in action.

Yes, WaSP would need to run the “where is the design?” block at the top of the page – like any number of participating sites. But with that explanation in place, surely all would be well?

While I really do see the point that some sites don’t have enough to gain from CSS Naked Day, I don’t think WaSP is one of those sites.

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By: Conrad Decker http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70520 Conrad Decker Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:45:00 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70520 I agree...I think that it may not make sense for a majority of sites to do this, but for those of us that can - then why not? It's a simple way to get a little recognition, and if nothing else it might make people ask the question "Hey, what's wrong with your site?". Then you have a reason to explain it to them. I personally see no harm. I agree…I think that it may not make sense for a majority of sites to do this, but for those of us that can – then why not? It’s a simple way to get a little recognition, and if nothing else it might make people ask the question “Hey, what’s wrong with your site?”. Then you have a reason to explain it to them. I personally see no harm.

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By: Mike Cherim http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70512 Mike Cherim Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:48:05 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70512 I don't get naked for the same reason. I have six sites and it'd be a poor decision for four of them, I'd be able to get away with it on two, but I won't even do it to my portfolio (linked from my name) and Accessites because I just feel too many visitors wouldn't understand and I'd have to explain, etc. I'd rather just write an article about it then those curious can turn off styles and check it (and be more than satisfied) for themselves. I don’t get naked for the same reason. I have six sites and it’d be a poor decision for four of them, I’d be able to get away with it on two, but I won’t even do it to my portfolio (linked from my name) and Accessites because I just feel too many visitors wouldn’t understand and I’d have to explain, etc. I’d rather just write an article about it then those curious can turn off styles and check it (and be more than satisfied) for themselves.

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By: goodwitch http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/comment-page-1/#comment-70510 goodwitch Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:02:57 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/04/07/showing-off-my-body-and-loving-it/#comment-70510 I'm looking forward to gettin' naked by shedding my css and showing nothin' but deliciously semantic mark-up. Reminds me of when I look in the mirror with no make-up on and love the bare bones me. I’m looking forward to gettin’ naked by shedding my css and showing nothin’ but deliciously semantic mark-up. Reminds me of when I look in the mirror with no make-up on and love the bare bones me.

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