Comments on: Microsoft releases the first IE8 Beta http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-71324 Jason Sat, 17 May 2008 22:50:21 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-71324 I have been waiting for IE8 for such a long time... However, it was such a shock when I first load my site on it today: CSS looks not right, AJAX (prototype) broke down ..... But, I don't believe I am the only one suffering it! If you have a look at Facebook, Flickr, My Yahoo, you will soon find out they are experiencing the bloody same problems! IE guys, what the hell you doing? Try to get all developer put "Don't support IE, please use Firefox or Safari or...."? I have been waiting for IE8 for such a long time… However, it was such a shock when I first load my site on it today: CSS looks not right, AJAX (prototype) broke down ….. But, I don’t believe I am the only one suffering it!

If you have a look at Facebook, Flickr, My Yahoo, you will soon find out they are experiencing the bloody same problems! IE guys, what the hell you doing? Try to get all developer put “Don’t support IE, please use Firefox or Safari or….”?

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By: Resimler http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-71291 Resimler Thu, 15 May 2008 00:29:23 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-71291 Ie8 very good, very strong. In particular the "imitation IE7" function. Open new tab significantly faster than before. Ie8 very good, very strong. In particular the “imitation IE7″ function. Open new tab significantly faster than before.

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By: Ajeet http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-68639 Ajeet Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:11:20 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-68639 I think I am going to await the release of Service Pack 1 for IE8 before I dive in :) I think I am going to await the release of Service Pack 1 for IE8 before I dive in :)

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By: Yo http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-68629 Yo Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:04:38 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-68629 And I don't know why people still even use Ie at all. It pisses me off that I have to hack my designs to make "separate" instructions for individual version of IE. And I don’t know why people still even use Ie at all. It pisses me off that I have to hack my designs to make “separate” instructions for individual version of IE.

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By: Yo http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-68628 Yo Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:02:51 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-68628 It doesn't matter if IE8 replaces previous Ie's. It can emulate IE7, and you can install a program called "multiple ies" that lets to run 4, 5, 5.5, and 6 along side something past 6 (7 or 8). It doesn’t matter if IE8 replaces previous Ie’s. It can emulate IE7, and you can install a program called “multiple ies” that lets to run 4, 5, 5.5, and 6 along side something past 6 (7 or 8).

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By: Woodburn http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-66152 Woodburn Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:04:13 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-66152 IE8 Won't even launch on my computer. It crashes each time upon startup. IE8 Won’t even launch on my computer. It crashes each time upon startup.

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By: Daniel http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-64771 Daniel Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:54:30 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-64771 Dear WaSP, plase file a bug that reminds the <abbr title="Internet Explorer">IE developers, that CSS files that aren't labeld with the media type "<code>text/css</code>" must be ignored. This is important, because Acid3 will make the remaining engines fix this bug. So if this isn't fixed in Internet Explorer, it will lead to interoperability problems.</abbr> Dear WaSP, plase file a bug that reminds the IE developers, that CSS files that aren’t labeld with the media type “text/css” must be ignored.

This is important, because Acid3 will make the remaining engines fix this bug. So if this isn’t fixed in Internet Explorer, it will lead to interoperability problems.

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By: ccasciano http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-63473 ccasciano Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:59:58 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-63473 Keith, with some of the javascript language changes 'break' goes beyond a box model change that puts padding outside instead of inside. Cases like 'document.getElementBy Id()' not returning the element because the author had used the name attribute is one easy example that comes to mind. [and yes, i realie this would already fail in 'other' browsers already, but its just an example]. Its also not just "the web" that is a concern to MS... many intranet or other browser based applications may have been coded poorly because their developers felt like they were working in a vendor controlled ecosystem who may have coded to IE6 or IE7 features [document.all, getelementby id, events system, other js quirks]. So as a vendor I think its understandable for MS to be worried about impact of upgrades, but the situation they're 'creating' isn't all that new to the world of browser releases. Keith, with some of the javascript language changes ‘break’ goes beyond a box model change that puts padding outside instead of inside. Cases like ‘document.getElementBy Id()’ not returning the element because the author had used the name attribute is one easy example that comes to mind. [and yes, i realie this would already fail in 'other' browsers already, but its just an example].

Its also not just “the web” that is a concern to MS… many intranet or other browser based applications may have been coded poorly because their developers felt like they were working in a vendor controlled ecosystem who may have coded to IE6 or IE7 features [document.all, getelementby id, events system, other js quirks].

So as a vendor I think its understandable for MS to be worried about impact of upgrades, but the situation they’re ‘creating’ isn’t all that new to the world of browser releases.

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By: Keith Bowes http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-63411 Keith Bowes Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:56:44 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-63411 I don't know about this whole web-site breaking thing. I'm assuming mostly minor issues. Do people really care about minor presentational problems? It seems like much ado about nothing to me. I don’t know about this whole web-site breaking thing. I’m assuming mostly minor issues. Do people really care about minor presentational problems? It seems like much ado about nothing to me.

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By: Michael Hall http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-63409 Michael Hall Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:27:34 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/05/microsoft-releases-the-first-ie8-beta/#comment-63409 Not sure if anyone else has noticed this with IE8 ..... Start -> Programs -> Windows Update Microsoft tells you that you need a version of IE higher than 5. I'm still scratching my head. Not sure if anyone else has noticed this with IE8 …..

Start -> Programs -> Windows Update

Microsoft tells you that you need a version of IE higher than 5.

I’m still scratching my head.

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