Comments on: Tell the CSS WG what you want from CSS3 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: blawson http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63688 blawson Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:03:48 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63688 Thanks everyone. Comments are closed. To contribute to the discussion, please use the W3C mailing list www-style, which is open to all. Thanks everyone. Comments are closed. To contribute to the discussion, please use the W3C mailing list www-style, which is open to all.

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By: akrem http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63659 akrem Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:13:01 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63659 i could need a pseudo-class that select evey even child in an element for exaple a table: table:evenchild{backgroundcolor:grey} this one has a grey bg this one has a grey bg this one has a grey bg ans so on... it would be possible to crate tables with alternating backgroundcolors like this http://www.innoq.com/blog/phaus/table.before.png i could need a pseudo-class that select evey even child in an element for exaple a table:

table:evenchild{backgroundcolor:grey}

this one has a grey bg

this one has a grey bg

this one has a grey bg

ans so on…

it would be possible to crate tables with alternating backgroundcolors like this http://www.innoq.com/blog/phaus/table.before.png

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By: Fenring http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63658 Fenring Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:59:41 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63658 Everyone is coming with great ideas and if all this is developed in CSS3, it'll be great. But I'm more concerned about HOW you will implement these features. Will you add yet another way to do things we already do ? Please don't. I agree with David Storey. If I want a complex gradient, please let me point (xpath, xpointer) to the corresponding gradient in an svg document. If I want an animation, please let me use SMIL. If I want a filter effect (blur, shadow, noise, ...), please let me point my svg again. Thanks heaps ! Everyone is coming with great ideas and if all this is developed in CSS3, it’ll be great.

But I’m more concerned about HOW you will implement these features. Will you add yet another way to do things we already do ?
Please don’t.
I agree with David Storey.

If I want a complex gradient, please let me point (xpath, xpointer) to the corresponding gradient in an svg document.
If I want an animation, please let me use SMIL.
If I want a filter effect (blur, shadow, noise, …), please let me point my svg again.

Thanks heaps !

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By: Bernie Zimmermann http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63652 Bernie Zimmermann Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:21:37 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63652 Back in 2004 I expressed a need for <a href="http://www.bernzilla.com/item.php?id=142" title="Ignoring All Styles" rel="nofollow">ignoring all styles</a> for a page element regardless of any other normal styling rules that might have normally been applied due to inheritance, etc. If there's a way to do this currently, I'd be interested in knowing. If there isn't, then it would be cool to see it considered for CSS3. Back in 2004 I expressed a need for ignoring all styles for a page element regardless of any other normal styling rules that might have normally been applied due to inheritance, etc. If there’s a way to do this currently, I’d be interested in knowing. If there isn’t, then it would be cool to see it considered for CSS3.

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By: Gyrobo http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63531 Gyrobo Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:43:13 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63531 I'd really appreciate those <a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2007/11/14/css4-selectors" rel="nofollow">nth-word selectors.</a> And maybe an nth-letter selector, which could be used in conjunction with web fonts to create some really nice effects. Also, could you add back in the :indeterminate pseudo-class? That would help users more easily see which options they haven't selected yet. ex. input[type=radio]:indeterminate + label:after { content:" Select One"; } I’d really appreciate those nth-word selectors.

And maybe an nth-letter selector, which could be used in conjunction with web fonts to create some really nice effects.

Also, could you add back in the :indeterminate pseudo-class? That would help users more easily see which options they haven’t selected yet.

ex.
input[type=radio]:indeterminate + label:after {
content:” Select One”;
}

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By: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63408 Ben 'Cerbera' Millard Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:01:08 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63408 I've blogged some review and ideas at <a href="http://projectcerbera.com/blog/2008/03#day05" rel="nofollow">What Ben Millard would like from <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets Level 3">CSS3</acronym></a>. A lot more than I had planned to, actually. Main things from my perspective as an author are: widespread implementation of useful stuff from <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets Level 2">CSS2</acronym>; avoiding a proliferation of features which all do very similar things in <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets Level 3">CSS3</acronym>; and making <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets Level">CSS</acronym> easier for authors. I’ve blogged some review and ideas at What Ben Millard would like from CSS3. A lot more than I had planned to, actually.

Main things from my perspective as an author are:

widespread implementation of useful stuff from CSS2;
avoiding a proliferation of features which all do very similar things in CSS3;
and making CSS easier for authors.

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By: Stephanie http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63382 Stephanie Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:09:51 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63382 I'm going to admit to myself I'm not going to have time to read over the layout module before Saturday but I saw a demo that Andy Clarke did of the bit about the slots and it worries me. It seems really unmaintainable. Not having read it myself there is one thing that I thought would improve it though it may already be part of it: Not having to define the slots in alphabetical order a.b.c. For example could also be a.f.m. That would make it much easier to make a.a.a.a.a.a.b.c.d.e.f into a.a.a.a.s.s.b.c.d.e.f without having to redefine a-f. I’m going to admit to myself I’m not going to have time to read over the layout module before Saturday but I saw a demo that Andy Clarke did of the bit about the slots and it worries me. It seems really unmaintainable.

Not having read it myself there is one thing that I thought would improve it though it may already be part of it:

Not having to define the slots in alphabetical order a.b.c. For example could also be a.f.m. That would make it much easier to make a.a.a.a.a.a.b.c.d.e.f into a.a.a.a.s.s.b.c.d.e.f without having to redefine a-f.

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By: Stephanie http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-4/#comment-63381 Stephanie Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:00:13 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63381 Ah, I just remembered the problem I've been wanting calculations to try to solve. With the standard box model there's no way to have to divs that are each 50% of the screen AND have padding, margin, or border. There isn't, in fact, a way to style anything an accurate percentage width of the screen and give it padding, margin, or border. In an ideal world we could say: #box{ width:50% -20px; border:10px; } There are actually two other solutions to this particular problem. Setting the box model: #box{ width:50%; box-sizing: border-box; border:10px; } Or being able to dynamically define an inner box like <a href="http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-59529" rel="nofollow">comment #31</a> suggested: #box{ width:50%; } #box:inner{ border:10px; } Thanks again. Ah, I just remembered the problem I’ve been wanting calculations to try to solve.

With the standard box model there’s no way to have to divs that are each 50% of the screen AND have padding, margin, or border. There isn’t, in fact, a way to style anything an accurate percentage width of the screen and give it padding, margin, or border.

In an ideal world we could say:
#box{
width:50% -20px;
border:10px;
}

There are actually two other solutions to this particular problem. Setting the box model:

#box{
width:50%;
box-sizing: border-box;
border:10px;
}

Or being able to dynamically define an inner box like comment #31 suggested:
#box{
width:50%;
}
#box:inner{
border:10px;
}

Thanks again.

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By: Darko Laus http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-3/#comment-63320 Darko Laus Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:23:29 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63320 Hello... Wouldn't it be neat if we could have variables in CSS3? For example you define a variable called my_color (and the syntax could be similar to PHP - with a $ before the variable name) $my_color: "#FFFFFF"; and then in the code you just use it like this border: 1px solid $my_color; background-color: $my_color; It would be much easier to maintain the website with just changing the variable value (if you decide to change the color for example) then to change each induvidual value every time... Another suggestion - will vertical alignment be possible in CSS3? Hello…

Wouldn’t it be neat if we could have variables in CSS3?

For example you define a variable called my_color (and the syntax could be similar to PHP – with a $ before the variable name)

$my_color: “#FFFFFF”;

and then in the code you just use it like this

border: 1px solid $my_color;
background-color: $my_color;

It would be much easier to maintain the website with just changing the variable value (if you decide to change the color for example) then to change each induvidual value every time…

Another suggestion – will vertical alignment be possible in CSS3?

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By: Soon-il DDang http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/comment-page-3/#comment-63275 Soon-il DDang Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:26:27 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/01/18/tell-the-css-wg-what-you-want-from-css3/#comment-63275 ah... my mistake... /* ex - hide event menu */ div.box ul {display: none;} div.box:toggle-on ul {display: block;} div.box:toggle-off ul {display: none;} ah… my mistake…

/* ex – hide event menu */
div.box ul {display: none;}
div.box:toggle-on ul {display: block;}
div.box:toggle-off ul {display: none;}

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