Comments on: The Web Standards Documentary Project http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aarron Walter http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57859 Aarron Walter Tue, 01 May 2007 13:21:09 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57859 FYI: I've recently added transcripts of each audio interview and an RSS feed so you can subscribe to the text and audio content as a podcast. FYI: I’ve recently added transcripts of each audio interview and an RSS feed so you can subscribe to the text and audio content as a podcast.

]]> By: Aarron Walter http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57769 Aarron Walter Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:10:59 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57769 From what I've seen the issue is beyond favor for IE (though it is sometimes the case). I've heard many businesses say that they are aware of Web Standards, but the reason they have not taken the time to learn and adopt them is that they don't feel there is any pay off for their time/money investment. I've also heard companies report that building sites without tables is less reliable cross-browser so they feel it will take more time to resolve simple issues. The reality is they just haven't taken the time to learn the basic concepts of CSS so everything seems more time consuming. There are also those who just have no idea what Web Standards are. These folks tend to be easier to persuade as they have not already made the case to themselves why they shouldn't learn about Web Standards. From what I’ve seen the issue is beyond favor for IE (though it is sometimes the case). I’ve heard many businesses say that they are aware of Web Standards, but the reason they have not taken the time to learn and adopt them is that they don’t feel there is any pay off for their time/money investment. I’ve also heard companies report that building sites without tables is less reliable cross-browser so they feel it will take more time to resolve simple issues. The reality is they just haven’t taken the time to learn the basic concepts of CSS so everything seems more time consuming.

There are also those who just have no idea what Web Standards are. These folks tend to be easier to persuade as they have not already made the case to themselves why they shouldn’t learn about Web Standards.

]]> By: dewde http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57764 dewde Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:29:58 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57764 <blockquote>so we might learn what is really preventing businesses from changing</blockquote> Don't we know this answer already? I thought we always knew this answer. While we still have browser companies arbitrarily implementing partial standards, businesses are going to publish websites that utilize the most efficient (cost-to-benefit) features. Businesses don't want to spend the money to write multiple versions of the same site or web app to accommodate multiple browsers. They also don't want to spend <b>just as much</b> time and money to write a single version of a site or web app to be multi-browser. Most businesses decide to spend half the time and money to write one version which satisfies the majority of the web consumers. And I don't blame them. Thanks to the popularity of FireFox, however, the benefit of writing for one browser (cough IE cough) and ignoring the rest is much less appealing these days. With Dell shipping Ubunto and MacBook users growing phenomenally I hope those days are finally behind us. The time is certainly ripe for businesses to start putting pressure on browser developers to keep making progress towards standards compliance. It will save them time and money in the end. But here I am preaching to the choir. Think I'll shut it now. peace|dewde

so we might learn what is really preventing businesses from changing

Don’t we know this answer already? I thought we always knew this answer. While we still have browser companies arbitrarily implementing partial standards, businesses are going to publish websites that utilize the most efficient (cost-to-benefit) features.

Businesses don’t want to spend the money to write multiple versions of the same site or web app to accommodate multiple browsers. They also don’t want to spend just as much time and money to write a single version of a site or web app to be multi-browser.

Most businesses decide to spend half the time and money to write one version which satisfies the majority of the web consumers. And I don’t blame them.

Thanks to the popularity of FireFox, however, the benefit of writing for one browser (cough IE cough) and ignoring the rest is much less appealing these days. With Dell shipping Ubunto and MacBook users growing phenomenally I hope those days are finally behind us.

The time is certainly ripe for businesses to start putting pressure on browser developers to keep making progress towards standards compliance. It will save them time and money in the end.

But here I am preaching to the choir. Think I’ll shut it now.

peace|dewde

]]> By: Aarron Walter http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57762 Aarron Walter Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:48:49 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57762 If you are trying to make a change at your place of employment or at your school, I've written a list of compelling arguments and links to sites who have done so perhaps more eloquently that could help you convince the folks in charge that making the switch to Web Standards is a worth while endeavor. Read it at http://aarronwalter.com/2007/04/24/how-to-convince-your-employer-or-teacher-to-adopt-web-standards/ If you are trying to make a change at your place of employment or at your school, I’ve written a list of compelling arguments and links to sites who have done so perhaps more eloquently that could help you convince the folks in charge that making the switch to Web Standards is a worth while endeavor. Read it at http://aarronwalter.com/2007/04/24/how-to-convince-your-employer-or-teacher-to-adopt-web-standards/

]]> By: Selena Jackson » Blog Archive » The Web Standards Documentary Project http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57761 Selena Jackson » Blog Archive » The Web Standards Documentary Project Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:03:08 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57761 [...] The Web Standards Documentary Project [...] [...] The Web Standards Documentary Project [...]

]]> By: rdickerson http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57760 rdickerson Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:57:28 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57760 <p>Gill, check out the <a href="/learn/reference/books/" rel="nofollow">Recommended Reading</a> section of this site for a list of good books.</p> Gill, check out the Recommended Reading section of this site for a list of good books.

]]> By: gill http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57759 gill Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:47:08 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57759 I've just been reading with interest some of the interviews, and coming to grips with the whole web standards project being a newbie to webdesign having been previously in marketing - can anyone welcome some beginners reading material for someone starting off who is up skilling themselves. I’ve just been reading with interest some of the interviews, and coming to grips with the whole web standards project being a newbie to webdesign having been previously in marketing – can anyone welcome some beginners reading material for someone starting off who is up skilling themselves.

]]> By: Aarron Walter http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57757 Aarron Walter Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:14:31 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57757 Thanks for the kind words, Adam. Hope to see yo uagain at SXSW next year. I have just added quite a few more interviews to the Web Standards Documentary Project. In the new interviews students talk about interviewing for jobs that are looking for employees with WS skills, how WS is talked about with clients in freelance projects, and standards inconsistencies inside major agencies. Thanks for the kind words, Adam. Hope to see yo uagain at SXSW next year.

I have just added quite a few more interviews to the Web Standards Documentary Project. In the new interviews students talk about interviewing for jobs that are looking for employees with WS skills, how WS is talked about with clients in freelance projects, and standards inconsistencies inside major agencies.

]]> By: Adam Darowski http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/comment-page-1/#comment-57752 Adam Darowski Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:11:39 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/20/the-web-standards-documentary-project/#comment-57752 I had the pleasure of meeting Aarron at SXSW and hanging out a bit. He is full of great ideas and I can't wait to check this out. I had the pleasure of meeting Aarron at SXSW and hanging out a bit. He is full of great ideas and I can’t wait to check this out.

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